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conservative members of congress on the republican side, house and senate, have been urging us to stay in afghanistan, to continue to spend $10 billion a month. we know we borrow 40 cents for every dollar we spend. $4 billion of the $10 billion each month they want to us spend needs to be borrowed. then the president comes in and says here is the debt ceiling. we have the borrow the money to continue the war. that's one example that you're in favor of. they're saying we're not going to touch it. we're opposing the debt ceiling. harry reid siz if you stand for policy to spend the money, responsibly stand up and vote for extension of the debt ceiling. >> bret: sure, but when you are upset about the situation you're in now and look back to december 2010, you could have taken care of it then. >> maybe. i don't know if it could have been part of the grand deal that extented the tax cuts across america and unemployment compensation benefits. that is monday morning quarterbacking. >> bret: one last thing. you think this deal, whatever is it, can get through the house? >> you're asking me? i don't know the a
conservative members of congress on the republican side, house and senate, have been urging us to stay in afghanistan, to continue to spend $10 billion a month. we know we borrow 40 cents for every dollar we spend. $4 billion of the $10 billion each month they want to us spend needs to be borrowed. then the president comes in and says here is the debt ceiling. we have the borrow the money to continue the war. that's one example that you're in favor of. they're saying we're not going to touch...
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, and also in iraq, but the once that mik was covering in afghanistan are asking, are we going to get paid? and they're living paycheck to paycheck. and tahey've got families back home that are relying on those paychecks. and for them to be told by the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs, mike mullen, who is a really stand-up guy for the troops, that he cannot assure them that they're going to get their pay, that brought it home, i think, more powerfully than anything that has happened in this debate. and if the men and women in the senate and the men and women in the house were watching television tonight and saw that, they ought to be hanging their heads. >> chuck, what do you think the surprises we can expect over the next 12 hours to be? would it be the fact that it's going to be -- we may see the reid bill go away completely, and hearing that these negotiations continue with the white house, it could be something that's more evolved out of mitch mcconnell's own doing? >> look, that has always been the hope here out of the senate with a lot of senators, democrat and republican a
, and also in iraq, but the once that mik was covering in afghanistan are asking, are we going to get paid? and they're living paycheck to paycheck. and tahey've got families back home that are relying on those paychecks. and for them to be told by the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs, mike mullen, who is a really stand-up guy for the troops, that he cannot assure them that they're going to get their pay, that brought it home, i think, more powerfully than anything that has happened in...
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prepares to withdraw troops from afghanistan, another setback to report tonight. a suicide bombing has killed the mayor of kandahar, afghanistan's second largest city. the mayor who, by the way, was a dual afghan-u.s. citizen was killed when an assassin detonated explosives hidden in his turban as the mayor met with tribal elders. >>> we have been reporting this week on the famine affecting millions in the horn of africa. today, a plane carrying the first airlift of urgently needed nutritional supplements landed in somalia. the shipment will be distributed to medical facilities to help starving children. >>> when we come back, the troubled life and far too early death of an olympian we got to know in vancouver. speedy as he was, he couldn't outrun his demons. >>> and later, closing the doors of an american institution after more than 100 years. >>> the games will be ready. the taxis will be ready. and all of the people of london will be ready to welcome the world's finest athletes to the greatest games that have ever been held in the greatest city on earth. >> tha
prepares to withdraw troops from afghanistan, another setback to report tonight. a suicide bombing has killed the mayor of kandahar, afghanistan's second largest city. the mayor who, by the way, was a dual afghan-u.s. citizen was killed when an assassin detonated explosives hidden in his turban as the mayor met with tribal elders. >>> we have been reporting this week on the famine affecting millions in the horn of africa. today, a plane carrying the first airlift of urgently needed...
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now wright about a man behind the suicide blast in afghanistan that killed seven kooi officers and contractors. happened in december of 2009. tell us about his role in both the cia and al qaeda. >> what's remarkable about this man from the cia's side nobody had seen him. he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his medical conditions he could get into the tribal areas. it helped us on drone strikes. started to get us very close to thinking we could take out senior al qaeda leaders. his information was really good. >> very quickly, you just said nobody had ever seen him, is that how he was able to infiltrate that base? >> when you have a good agent you go to all kind measures to protect his identity. they didn't want anybody to see him. everything was focused on trying to get in man into a cia base before anybody could see him. he had three layers of security without being searched until he was within the presence of a cia off
now wright about a man behind the suicide blast in afghanistan that killed seven kooi officers and contractors. happened in december of 2009. tell us about his role in both the cia and al qaeda. >> what's remarkable about this man from the cia's side nobody had seen him. he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his...
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>> yeah from this standpoint, safelying we projected we would in the iraq and afghanistan war when we know we are going to be out of there. it is dishonest to say you are going to have savings from something that isn't spent any way. >> greta: what would he said? >> he would probably say the republicans -- the budget never becomes law. if reid's bill would pass it would become law. a budget is nothing than an outline. >> greta: you are saying you did it so we do it? >> probably his argument. >> greta: what do you think the american people would think of that? >> american people are fed up with the partisanship in washington. they want us to reach an agreement. a large share of the calls we've gotten since the president's speech monday night is, just get it done. >> greta: there are a couple of factions. within the republican party in the house, you have the tea party people who say there must be a balanced budget amendment in this bill or we are voting no. that's divided. over here the senate says if the boehner bill comes here it is not likely to pass if it does the president says he
>> yeah from this standpoint, safelying we projected we would in the iraq and afghanistan war when we know we are going to be out of there. it is dishonest to say you are going to have savings from something that isn't spent any way. >> greta: what would he said? >> he would probably say the republicans -- the budget never becomes law. if reid's bill would pass it would become law. a budget is nothing than an outline. >> greta: you are saying you did it so we do it?...
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troops in afghanistan have a question for the nation's top military man. will they get paid? his answer, coming up on msnbc saturday. [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your tired achy feet. for locations, see drscholls.com. thank you... ♪ going to the bank without going to the bank... that's a step forward. with chase quickdeposit on your smartphone, you just snap a picture, hit send and done. chase quickdeposit. take a step forward and chase what matters. ♪ we just keep on keepin' on ♪ ♪ keep on >>> well kol back to msnbc saturday. we have new word from president obama this morning on the debt crisis
troops in afghanistan have a question for the nation's top military man. will they get paid? his answer, coming up on msnbc saturday. [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. dr. scholl's custom fit...
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muslim plotted the attack saying he wanted to "get even with the military for fighting in iraq and afghanistan." >>> new jersey governor chris christie left the hospital last night after being treated briefly for asthma. the governor says he experienced shortness of breath and lied headedness. it didn't take long for the question of a president's run to come up, of course. let's listen. >> if i decided i want to run for president, i think you know me, charlie, i'd do it, and if there were people who don't think i'm up to it, they ought not vote for me, but we're not at that stage at the moment, so i don't have to worry about it. >> every time i hear him talk about this campaign i swear it sounds like he's looking for a way to run. not a way to not run. hamlet, move over. >>> in a prime example of art imitating life, a spy novelist. major shifts in his story. the product, a riveting and very relevant new book called portrait of a spy. the author, here again. daniel silva. first of all, congratulations. "wall street journal" best-seller. number one. >> number one. >> it will catch up. >> they do
muslim plotted the attack saying he wanted to "get even with the military for fighting in iraq and afghanistan." >>> new jersey governor chris christie left the hospital last night after being treated briefly for asthma. the governor says he experienced shortness of breath and lied headedness. it didn't take long for the question of a president's run to come up, of course. let's listen. >> if i decided i want to run for president, i think you know me, charlie, i'd do...
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that's causing anxiety from wall street to the battlefields of afghanistan. as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, discovered for himself today, nbc's jim miklaszewski is traveling with him. >> reporter: here at the hot spots of kandahar, american soldiers and marines are still dodging bullets, rockets and road side bombs every day. amazingly, when they had a cc1: chance to throw questions at the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, their number one concern was the ongoing debate back home over the debt ceiling. >> the checkbook is not unlimited. >> reporter: admiral mullen told soldiers at kandahar that if the talks failed they'd still have to fight but they might not get paid. >> there are plenty of you that are living paycheck to paycheck: so if paychecks were to stop, it can have a devastating impact, and it can have a devastating impact pretty quickly. >> reporter: at camp leatherneck, mullen told marines given the state of the u.s. economy, all the services face a cutback in the size of the force, and m
that's causing anxiety from wall street to the battlefields of afghanistan. as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, discovered for himself today, nbc's jim miklaszewski is traveling with him. >> reporter: here at the hot spots of kandahar, american soldiers and marines are still dodging bullets, rockets and road side bombs every day. amazingly, when they had a cc1: chance to throw questions at the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, their...
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when you don't pay for two wars in iraq and afghanistan and you borrow all the money from china, you are going to have to pay for it at some point. >> bret: you mention social security in the president's deficit commission report, they say among other things without action the benefits currently pledged under social security are promise we cannot keep. do you think changes need to be made to social security for future generations or not? >> absolutely. you said the operative words. "future generations." we're not talking about balancing the budgets today for future generations. we're doing it because if we don't do it today, the person who pay the mortgage tomorrow see it shot up. this is not about the future obligation. social security will be good for the next quarter century. we should do something after the quarter century, we are not paying 78 cents on the dollar but we're paying 100% on the dollar. >> bret: last year for the first time since the '80s, social security paid out more benefit than it took in payroll taxes. correct? >> true. >> bret: essentially, correct me if i'm w
when you don't pay for two wars in iraq and afghanistan and you borrow all the money from china, you are going to have to pay for it at some point. >> bret: you mention social security in the president's deficit commission report, they say among other things without action the benefits currently pledged under social security are promise we cannot keep. do you think changes need to be made to social security for future generations or not? >> absolutely. you said the operative words....
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. >> -- ask about military strategy or how a troop drawdown in afghanistan would affect them. no. they ask whether they would pay for republicans to force the united states government to stop paying its bills. a region that has been rocked by violence and plagued by suicide bombers this month and wondered how they would take care of their families if the checks stopped coming next month. let me read a little bit of that that came out yesterday. "half a world away from the capitol, capitol hill deadlock, the debt crisis weighs heavily on troops in afghanistan. and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombings rocked the city around them, was one a top united states military officer couldn't answer -- will we get paid?" admiral mullen went on to say, "i don't know the answer to that question. but either way, those soldiers, all of you must continue to work every day." this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going off arnold them, shouldn't wonder if this country would leave them high and dry. this afternoon i've aske
. >> -- ask about military strategy or how a troop drawdown in afghanistan would affect them. no. they ask whether they would pay for republicans to force the united states government to stop paying its bills. a region that has been rocked by violence and plagued by suicide bombers this month and wondered how they would take care of their families if the checks stopped coming next month. let me read a little bit of that that came out yesterday. "half a world away from the capitol,...
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. >> and they are part of the 290 soldiers from the hawk eye state in afghanistan . washington d.c., an iraq war vet ron cashing in with a lottery ticket. >> i sat down and couldn't walk at the time . hey, you know, i just won a million dollars. >> he had to take cell phone picture. they have planned for the house. a new house. >> and missouri, locals unveiling a new statue of rock-n-roll legend chuck berry. a st. louis native thanks the crowd and hanging out listening to his old tunes. >> alabama. new challenge for bold eaters. >> 15 or six. >> if you can finish in two hours, your meal is on the house. >> ate 30 peaches . don't come up short or that burger will cost you 80 bucks that is a fox watch in america. >> a live look now in the senate floor. we are expecting a test vote of senator harry reid's bill for raising the nation's limit. we could hear it would come at 1:00 a.m. eastern time. would we be any closer to a deal and an update on capitol hill right now. some say obesity crisis is due to children sitting in front of the computers and not getting outside li
. >> and they are part of the 290 soldiers from the hawk eye state in afghanistan . washington d.c., an iraq war vet ron cashing in with a lottery ticket. >> i sat down and couldn't walk at the time . hey, you know, i just won a million dollars. >> he had to take cell phone picture. they have planned for the house. a new house. >> and missouri, locals unveiling a new statue of rock-n-roll legend chuck berry. a st. louis native thanks the crowd and hanging out listening...
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it includes savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. these are real savings that cbo scores at about $1 trillion. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings but they have no leg to stand on. but wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cut for the conduct and the worst ads to our debt, to is undeniable that winding down the war's delivers savings. the administration tells us with the wind down, they can't prosecute -- they can count on billions of dollars over the next decade the cbo count $1.67 trillion. we know the republicans agree theythis mstath because included the same settings in the ryan budget that passed the house. they never criticized that accounting and it is hard to see how they could do so now. lastly, senator reid's proposal allows for a joint committee that has the potential to achieve deeper savings down the road. all in all, this is an offer that republicans cannot refuse. all of the cuts in center repots proposal have been supported at one point or another by re
it includes savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. these are real savings that cbo scores at about $1 trillion. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings but they have no leg to stand on. but wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cut for the conduct and the worst ads to our debt, to is undeniable that winding down the war's delivers savings. the administration tells us with the wind down, they can't prosecute --...
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the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that form. >> sean: what is interesting about that when they send it back to the house i would assume because it was so difficult to get the republicans onboard the boehner bill, took the extra day, creating more savings and then, of course, adding the balanced budget provision late yesterday so the vote could take place today, i would assume that the speaker would lose a lot of votes and would be then on democrats to pass what would be the reid mcconnell bill. >> bret: and probably some more boehner factors in there. try to merge one would think the reid, mcconnell and boehner bills. there will not be the balan
the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that...
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the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that form. >> sean: what is interesting about that when they send it back to the house i would assume because it was so difficult to get the republicans onboard the boehner bill, took the extra day, creating more savings and then, of course, adding the balanced budget provision late yesterday so the vote could take place today, i would assume that the speaker would lose a lot of votes and would be then on democrats to pass what would be the reid mcconnell bill. >> bret: and probably some more boehner factors in there. try to merge one would think the reid, mcconnell and boehner bills. there will not be the balan
the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that...
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the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that form. >> sean: what is interesting about that when they send it back to the house i would assume because it was so difficult to get the republicans onboard the boehner bill, took the extra day, creating more savings and then, of course, adding the balanced budget provision late yesterday so the vote could take place today, i would assume that the speaker would lose a lot of votes and would be then on democrats to pass what would be the reid mcconnell bill. >> bret: and probably some more boehner factors in there. try to merge one would think the reid, mcconnell and boehner bills. there will not be the balan
the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that...
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is anyone safe in afghanistan? really safe? >> well, not... we can't say that anyone is safe in this country. >> reporter: mar rown mir runs the afghan center for policy studies. >> they have decided not to face the u.s. military, instead they have focused on terrorist attacks on civilians, government, institutions. >> reporter: in two suicide attacks the taliban unleashed a surprising new weapon that allowed them to get past police and security-- bombs hidden in turbans. there are checkpoints all across kabul. it's common to pull people out of vehicles, to frisk them and search the vehicles themselves but as you can see, it's incredibly uncommon to search under a turban. to remove a turban in public would be considered an insult. it was an explosive-laden turban that killed the kandahar mayor yesterday. and just last week, koofi herself was invited to a gathering where two people were killed. have you changed any way that you go about life because of these threats? >> i did a little bit. but, you know, when it comes to assassination and plann
is anyone safe in afghanistan? really safe? >> well, not... we can't say that anyone is safe in this country. >> reporter: mar rown mir runs the afghan center for policy studies. >> they have decided not to face the u.s. military, instead they have focused on terrorist attacks on civilians, government, institutions. >> reporter: in two suicide attacks the taliban unleashed a surprising new weapon that allowed them to get past police and security-- bombs hidden in...
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today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing war in oil-richç monarchies that we depend on or energy resources. our specialist today, an award-winning journalist who spent four decades coving terrorism, turmoil and most recently the drive for democracy in the islamic world. her new book "rock the casbah" documenting you new counterjihad. we welcome you to the conversation. tell wlaus a countergee shaud? >> the most important wave of empowerment in the early 21st century. we soo it play out in the uprising across the arab world but also happen kind of culture change, ridiculing extremists. plays out among playwrighting and p
today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing...
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away from the capitol, the capitol hill deadlock, the debt crisis is weighing heavily on troops in afghanistan and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombing rocked the city around th them, a question they couldn't answer -- will we get paid?" admiral mullen went on to say, i don't know the answer to that question. but either way those soldiers, he said, all of you must continue to work every day. mr. president, this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going on around them, shouldn't worry whether this country will leave them high and dry. this afternoon i asked those who have said they will never compromise on any terms to think about who their spub borness will really hurt. seniors, soldiers and others. i've spoken to the vice president this morning, in fact a couple of times. he's hopeful. of course we have to be hopeful and we're close to an agreement with republican leaders. the framework of this agreement is based on new ideas and old ideas. after speaking to republican leader mitch mcconnell this morning, we are cautiou
away from the capitol, the capitol hill deadlock, the debt crisis is weighing heavily on troops in afghanistan and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombing rocked the city around th them, a question they couldn't answer -- will we get paid?" admiral mullen went on to say, i don't know the answer to that question. but either way those soldiers, he said, all of you must continue to work every day. mr. president, this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as...
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the cuts are not really new but simply counting the saving from the wind down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. senate republicans say reid was with them on a two-step increase process, but that the white house shot that down. and the white house says it's all up to boehner to find a way forward. now, pressure is mounting, so is anxiety over the markets. here's white house chief of staff bill daley on "meet the press" yesterday. >> we are now getting to a point where i think markets around the world will question whether the political system in washington can come together and compromise for the greater good of the. >> country. >> the new fear. a downgrade in america's credit rating even if a debt creeling is raised. if only for six or nine months if it looks like washington can't figure out a long-term debt and deficit issue. by the way, something else going on here. the white house is basically out of the talks. harry reid is proxy for the white house. there isn't much communication going on between house republicans and the white house. it looked like yesterday morning that might not be the
the cuts are not really new but simply counting the saving from the wind down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. senate republicans say reid was with them on a two-step increase process, but that the white house shot that down. and the white house says it's all up to boehner to find a way forward. now, pressure is mounting, so is anxiety over the markets. here's white house chief of staff bill daley on "meet the press" yesterday. >> we are now getting to a point where i think...
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barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to know will they get paid and will their families be taken care of. this is just the beginning because now with all the talk in washington about money, money, money, the pentagon itself is right in the cross hairs. the pentagon spend nearly $700 billion a year on wars, fighter jets, bombings and bullets. rich target to cut spending to reduce the deficit. president obama's incoming top military advisor is playing ball to an extent. >> if we don't show we recognize that the nation has a significant economic problem and then do our part whatever that part may be t
barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to...
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special envoy to afghanistan. his new book is called the wars of afghanistan. please welcome to the problem peter tomsen. have a seat. >> thank you. >> jon: my first question to you is simply this. really? (laughter) really? >> it's pretty big. >> jon: really? >> yeah (laughter) don't drop it on your toe. >> jon: let me ask you this, volume 2, what period of wars does this cover and how much of the amazon is now gone? (laughter) what period of wars are we dealing with her. >> actually it's six, two in the 19th century, one in the early 20th century, and the rest with the soviet invasion and afterwards. >> jon: starting in '79. >> right. >> jon: what is so alluringly invadable about-- (laughter) >> jon: afghanistan because everyone seems to want to do it they don't have oil. they don't appear to have mineral wealth, although i think they've recently discovered that. they appear to just have a tightly knit group of tribes who don't care for being invaded. >> exactly. and in our case we called it an intervention. some call it an invasion. the big, the most importa
special envoy to afghanistan. his new book is called the wars of afghanistan. please welcome to the problem peter tomsen. have a seat. >> thank you. >> jon: my first question to you is simply this. really? (laughter) really? >> it's pretty big. >> jon: really? >> yeah (laughter) don't drop it on your toe. >> jon: let me ask you this, volume 2, what period of wars does this cover and how much of the amazon is now gone? (laughter) what period of wars are we...
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i was really struck by a cartoon this week that had the leaders of iraq and afghanistan, maliki and karzai, looking at our debt ceiling debate and saying do you think they'll ever be ready for democracy? you know, the fact is that we've got people who have been elected, house members have been elected in gerrymandered, much more partisan districts. they're more worried about being challenged in a primary than running against the democrat. you've got both caucuses now much more ideological because the census the democrats were defeated in the last round. so, this whole thing fell apart. john boehner and barack obama probably could have come together on something. they could not lead their caucuses, and boehner is a different kind of speaker. he has not the ability or the desire to go out and say this is the deal, my way or the highway. you're not going to get on this, you're not going to get on that, you're not going to have a good office. the old enforcement mechanisms, as much as we dislike them and used to criticize them, they worked. leaders could demand followship. here, there's an exi
i was really struck by a cartoon this week that had the leaders of iraq and afghanistan, maliki and karzai, looking at our debt ceiling debate and saying do you think they'll ever be ready for democracy? you know, the fact is that we've got people who have been elected, house members have been elected in gerrymandered, much more partisan districts. they're more worried about being challenged in a primary than running against the democrat. you've got both caucuses now much more ideological...
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. >>> hello, here's what's happen ppg the top military commander arrived in afghanistan on an unannounced visit reassuring leaders thereafter a string of high profile attacks and assassinations. here at home the obama add 3i7b strags struck a deal with u.s. auto makers to more than double fuel efficiency standards it 54.5 gal miles a gallon by the year 2055. >>> a dismal week on wall street as washington wrestled with the debt ceiling debit and new reports showed anemic economic reports over the last six months. now back it "hardball." now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." watching the battle on capitol hill these past few weeks. outside interest groups have also been eager to throw stones at their opponents in this debt fight. millions of dollars spent on ad buys attacking the president, but if the country defaults and the economy suffers, don't the president's re-election chances suffer as well? eugene robinson is an nbc political analyst and an associate editor and columnist at "the washington post" as well as an msnbc analyst. >> the fact is if good things happen whe
. >>> hello, here's what's happen ppg the top military commander arrived in afghanistan on an unannounced visit reassuring leaders thereafter a string of high profile attacks and assassinations. here at home the obama add 3i7b strags struck a deal with u.s. auto makers to more than double fuel efficiency standards it 54.5 gal miles a gallon by the year 2055. >>> a dismal week on wall street as washington wrestled with the debt ceiling debit and new reports showed anemic...
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troops in afghanistan. and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombings rock the city around them, was the top u.s. military officer couldn't answer. a question he couldn't answer. will we -- these are soldiers in afghanistan with bombs bursting around them and here is what the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said. and i quote, i actually don't know the answer to that question. i noknow mike mcmullen responde while at the same time saying continuing to work each day, wearing the uniform, listening to bombs go off around them. that's why today we have with us some -- what is referred to you by you press folks as real people. i guess we're not. we have students like laura and sydney, veterans like bill and roger and carlos, arianna, who is a senior, guillermo, who say senior, lucia, a senior, felicia is a senior, mary ellen is a senior, alisa is a senior, they're here representing the millions of people around this country who are as brave as the soldiers on the front lines in afghanistan.
troops in afghanistan. and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombings rock the city around them, was the top u.s. military officer couldn't answer. a question he couldn't answer. will we -- these are soldiers in afghanistan with bombs bursting around them and here is what the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said. and i quote, i actually don't know the answer to that question. i noknow mike mcmullen responde while at the same time saying continuing to work each day, wearing...
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basically, how do you avoid the pitfalls of vietnam in afghanistan. >> he inherited afghanistan and iraq the way nixon inherited vietnam, 535,000 troops in vietnam when he got into the white house. bush i learned the lessons. there was a big push from the neoconservatives to go to baghdad. bush i did that and said this is what everybody signed on for. we are stopping at the iraqi border. he got the lesson right. >> for the record, george w. bush spit out his coffee and wept for it. marvin, go ahead. >> i agree with you, pat. the relevant point is vietnam was in his point. he did not want to go too far or get trapped in baghdad. this is one of the most fascinating things, you can get in on the act, too. the way one of the presidents after another, vietnam sits there just hanging around and even if you wanted to dump it, you couldn't. >> i asked obama about this a year ago and he maintains he's free of the vietnam. >> i agree with you. he's the one sitting there saying i'm not doing ten years. i'm not doing $1 trillion. it's about vietnam. it's about getting into a steal mate. >> yet, we s
basically, how do you avoid the pitfalls of vietnam in afghanistan. >> he inherited afghanistan and iraq the way nixon inherited vietnam, 535,000 troops in vietnam when he got into the white house. bush i learned the lessons. there was a big push from the neoconservatives to go to baghdad. bush i did that and said this is what everybody signed on for. we are stopping at the iraqi border. he got the lesson right. >> for the record, george w. bush spit out his coffee and wept for it....
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obviously the americans here in afghanistan, very worried about what's going on in washington. many of these men and women haven't seen their families for several months. many won't see them for a full year and they're wondering if those family members are going to be getting those paychecks. they're risking their lives here in afghanistan, and they're wondering why their congressmen and women back home can't come up with a decision and can't help them actually receive their paychecks. alex? >> so, atia, then did they get reassurance at all? >> reporter: well, that was the interesting part. i wasn't actually down in kandahar with them, but from the reporters who were out there, they said admiral mullen didn't really have an answer for them. but what he did say he kind of made a joke out of it and said you should probably write letters to your congressmen and women. and that received chuckles from the crowd, because they realized as well, how ridiculous that is, because they're in a war zone. they're here risking their lives. but at the same time, they're also worried about thei
obviously the americans here in afghanistan, very worried about what's going on in washington. many of these men and women haven't seen their families for several months. many won't see them for a full year and they're wondering if those family members are going to be getting those paychecks. they're risking their lives here in afghanistan, and they're wondering why their congressmen and women back home can't come up with a decision and can't help them actually receive their paychecks. alex?...
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i mean, spending at its height in iraq and afghanistan. in addition, if i understand correctly, $400 billion in interest that we would not need to pay because of the elimination of this phantom $1 trillion. so right from the beginning, you're starting about half as many, quote, unquote, cuts as nor reid suggests that are there. i think, you know, that's a nonstarter. if that passes the house, it passes because all the democrats pass and some republicans vote for it. i can't imagine that republicans would vote for something that's obviously that phony. >> there are doubts whether he could get the 60 votes needed to move it past in the democratic-controlled senate. >> if miles an hour mcconnell wants to draw the line on this issue he can prevent this plan from getting 60 votes. democrats need seven republicans to join them to get 60. republicans need 13 democrats. in this case, in today's politics, 13 is the smaller number. >> and let's remember why we're here. harry reid had an opportunity back in december of 2010 to bring up the debt limit
i mean, spending at its height in iraq and afghanistan. in addition, if i understand correctly, $400 billion in interest that we would not need to pay because of the elimination of this phantom $1 trillion. so right from the beginning, you're starting about half as many, quote, unquote, cuts as nor reid suggests that are there. i think, you know, that's a nonstarter. if that passes the house, it passes because all the democrats pass and some republicans vote for it. i can't imagine that...
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this is his 15th trip to afghanistan, he made his way south to a very volatile area in afghanistan. so he was expecting questions, the fact that 10,000 troops will be going home by the end of the year, 28,000 by the end of next year. but these soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines want to know will they be getting their paychecks. they're very worried about that, and it's saddening to think that on their list of boworries, rpg iegs and now will they be paid. >> they have very tight budgets. >> absolutely. some of these men and women are living paycheck to paycheck. they have fam less back home depends on these paychecks. some of these men and women who come to afghanistan volunteer because they get a slight boost in their salaries. right now they're wondering if it's worth it, because will their families get the paychecks. and those are families worrying for their loved ones and they're also worrying, will they be able to pay for next week's groceries. the men and women here are worried about that, and they know they shouldn't be worrying about that in a war zone. >> atia, thank you
this is his 15th trip to afghanistan, he made his way south to a very volatile area in afghanistan. so he was expecting questions, the fact that 10,000 troops will be going home by the end of the year, 28,000 by the end of next year. but these soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines want to know will they be getting their paychecks. they're very worried about that, and it's saddening to think that on their list of boworries, rpg iegs and now will they be paid. >> they have very tight...
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now he's signed on to come back and go to afghanistan. you've got a lot going on behind the scenes as well. >> reporter: that's right. but politically, the thing that is front and center is the debt. these debt talks because it's so tied to the economy. and while he does want to support a vote on libya which is another thing on the docket this week, the irony the president guilted harry reid to calling the senate back in and the first order of business is libya, not the debt talks. because it was the president that guilted congress into coming back this week, at least the house was scheduled to come back tomorrow, you've got to assume he is going to try to do everything he can to jump start a negotiating session. don't forget that's what we're at a deadlock. we're not at a deadlock over plans. we're at a deadlock over the next time these guys are going to talk. that's how far behind these talks are at this point. >> a legendary "the new york times" reporter on this issue reported that they had under the biden talks reached some tentative,
now he's signed on to come back and go to afghanistan. you've got a lot going on behind the scenes as well. >> reporter: that's right. but politically, the thing that is front and center is the debt. these debt talks because it's so tied to the economy. and while he does want to support a vote on libya which is another thing on the docket this week, the irony the president guilted harry reid to calling the senate back in and the first order of business is libya, not the debt talks....
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commander in afghanistan general petraeus and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates regarding their chrysippus us political and military withdrawal after the soviet forces was drove from afghanistan very real the wrong way for the united states was eat and friends into pakistan and afghanistan as a proxy and i saw me jihad in the late seventy's this is their main polina can all be in which iran security and wonder are there the united states has committed in this region the united states is doomed to deal be a very blowback of its own policy in the late seventy's in pakistan and afghanistan. russian pilots taking to the skies and small airplanes are the only grounded by the other vital about the people where we simply adopt the was dropped some of the vehicle that would clear the runway for more frequent flights however many obstacles still remain if what's that building made for us in small a.b.s. yes that's nice but that's the states. dozens of pilots swing their way across russia for the second annual cuban air short for most smal
commander in afghanistan general petraeus and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates regarding their chrysippus us political and military withdrawal after the soviet forces was drove from afghanistan very real the wrong way for the united states was eat and friends into pakistan and afghanistan as a proxy and i saw me jihad in the late seventy's this is their main polina can all be in which iran security and wonder are there the united states has committed in this region the united states is...
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. >> our soldiers in afghanistan repeatedly asked admiral mullen yesterday, will we get paid? will our families get your checks? shame on the republicans for making that happen. in battle, when you accidentally shoot your own, it's called friendly fire. when you deliberately shoot your own it's called fraging. republicans stop fraging the american economy and american people. >> luke russert is live on the capitol hill with the latest. we have the senate and house now working hard what's happening? >> right now as you saw, richard, there is a spirited debate on the house floor about harry reid's bill. speaker boehner taking an interesting step. the house will, in fact, vote down harry reid's proposal to raise the nation's debt limit. interesting because harry reid says it is still not a finished product. speaker boehner and eric cantor taking a symbolic step showing the harry reid proposal has nowhere of going in the house. that should go about 2:30 p.m. mitch mcconnell and harry reid spoke on the senate floor back and forth. mitch mcconnell saying in order for there to be a c
. >> our soldiers in afghanistan repeatedly asked admiral mullen yesterday, will we get paid? will our families get your checks? shame on the republicans for making that happen. in battle, when you accidentally shoot your own, it's called friendly fire. when you deliberately shoot your own it's called fraging. republicans stop fraging the american economy and american people. >> luke russert is live on the capitol hill with the latest. we have the senate and house now working hard...
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troops in afghanistan. the top question among them is one a top u.s. military officer wouldn't answer: will we get paid?" end of quote. admiral mullen went on to say, "i don't know the teens that question, but either way, those soldiers" he said, "all of us must continue to work every day." mr. president, this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going off around them, shouldn't worry about whether this country will leave them high and dry. this afternoon i asked those who said they will never compromise on any terms to think about who their stubbornness will really hurt: seniors, soldiers, and others. i've spoken to the vice president this morning, a couple of times. he's home -- of course we have to be hopeful -- that we're close to an agreement with republican leaders. the framework of this agreement is based on new ideas and some old ideas. after speaking with the republican leader, mitch mcconnell, this morning, we're cautiously optimistic. there are a number of issues yet to be resolved and we m
troops in afghanistan. the top question among them is one a top u.s. military officer wouldn't answer: will we get paid?" end of quote. admiral mullen went on to say, "i don't know the teens that question, but either way, those soldiers" he said, "all of us must continue to work every day." mr. president, this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going off around them, shouldn't worry about whether this country will...
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troops serving in afghanistan. marines want to know if they'll get paid if the debt deadline expires. it was the first question they asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff during his visit today to afghanistan. admirable mike mullen told him he does not know the answer, but says he's confident they will eventually get any salary they're owed. >>> failure to raise the debt ceiling could have widespread impact and end up costing us all more. interest rates for homes and cars are expected to rise. rates for a 30-year fixed mortgage could go a half percent. economists believe the crisis could lead to a further drop in the value of the u.s. dollar. as a result the price for goods, specifically imported from china, like rice and spices would increase. jitters about the debt deadline are having an impact on wall street. the dow lost 581 points last week. there's the biggest weekly drop in a year. >>> a stanford political science expert says the impasse is nothing new. professor david brady says both parties have
troops serving in afghanistan. marines want to know if they'll get paid if the debt deadline expires. it was the first question they asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff during his visit today to afghanistan. admirable mike mullen told him he does not know the answer, but says he's confident they will eventually get any salary they're owed. >>> failure to raise the debt ceiling could have widespread impact and end up costing us all more. interest rates for homes and cars are...
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we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses really willing to invest in afghanistan? >> they are. one of the most recent projects is with kate spade. kate spade has gone into afghanistan in the last year. they surveyed what tn opportunities are there for marketable products and going te marketableable products, and afghanistan has the third largest producer of cashmere, and they want a product made by afghan women and sold in kate spade stores here and online and they are willing to invest a lot of money i might add, but they have the support of the u.s. government and the u.s. military to give them access. >> anita mcbride, what a pleasure to see you again. >> thank you so much. >>> what political stories will be making headlines
we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses really willing to invest in afghanistan? >> they are. one of the most recent projects is with kate spade. kate spade has gone into afghanistan in the last...
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, this is his 15th trip to afghanistan. and probably one of the last ones. i'm pretty sure this is one of the last questions that he expected, but apparently it was the biggest question that he received among the sailors, the soldiers, the airmen and the marines. he was quite honest with them when he said he didn't know what this meant for their paycheck. these are men and women in afghanistan, here months at a time, sometimes years at a time away from their families, expecting a paycheck, expecting a paycheck for fighting for their country. on top of worrying about ieds and rpgs, now they have to worry about whether they will be paid and their families will be provided for. >> since we're talking about this and luke was talking about what's happening on the hill, are there a lot of questions coming from those serving in the military, contractors that are in afghanistan, war theaters abroad, what have you heard in terms of what's happening here in washington? >> reporter: what most americans here that aren't in the armed fo
, this is his 15th trip to afghanistan. and probably one of the last ones. i'm pretty sure this is one of the last questions that he expected, but apparently it was the biggest question that he received among the sailors, the soldiers, the airmen and the marines. he was quite honest with them when he said he didn't know what this meant for their paycheck. these are men and women in afghanistan, here months at a time, sometimes years at a time away from their families, expecting a paycheck,...